Gary O’DonoghueChief North America Correspondent, Washington
Listen: I’m ‘disappointed but not done’ with Putin, Trump tells BBC
Donald Trump has said that he is disappointed but not done with Vladimir Putin, in an exclusive phone call with the BBC.
The US president was pressed on whether he trusts the Russian leader, and replied: “I trust almost nobody.”
Trump was speaking hours after he announced plans to send weapons to Ukraine and warned of severe tariffs on Russia if there was no ceasefire deal in 50 days.
In an interview from the Oval Office, the president also endorsed Nato, having once described it as obsolete, and affirmed his support for the organisation’s common defence principle.
Listen to the full interview on BBC SoundsHow Trump woke me up for surprise interviewThe president made the phone call, which lasted 20 minutes, to the BBC after conversations about a potential interview to mark one year on since the attempt on his life at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Asked about whether surviving the assassination attempt had changed him, Trump said he liked to think about it as little as possible.
“I don’t like to think about if it did change me,” Trump said. Dwelling on it, he added, “could be life-changing”.
Having just met with Nato chief Mark Rutte at the White House, however, the president spent a significant portion of the interview expanding on his disappointment with the Russian leader.
Trump said that he had thought a deal to end the war in Ukraine was on the cards with Russia four different times.
Rosenberg: Russia more relieved than rattled by US tariff threatTrump weapons pledge marks major step forward for UkraineWhen asked by the BBC if he was done with Putin, the president replied: “I’m disappointed in him, but I’m not done with him. But I’m disappointed in him.”
Pressed on how Trump would get Putin to “stop the bloodshed” the US president said: “We’re working at it, Gary.”
“We’ll have a great conversation. I’ll say: ‘That’s good, I’ll think we’re close to getting it done,’ and then he’ll knock down a building in Kyiv.”
Russia has intensified its drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities in recent weeks, causing record civilian casualties. It launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbour in 2022.
Putin has insisted he also wants peace but has said what he calls the “root causes” of the war must be resolved first. He argues that the war is the result of external threats to Russia’s security from Kyiv, Nato and th
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